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If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:04 pm
by The Grocer

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:54 am
by sweep
Very helpful, Grocer! Especially the first 4/5 paragraphs which set out the facts. It’s a shame the uk press do not always report matters factually and a shame, also, that the uk has a governor of its central bank that thinks he’s a ‘pop star’.......

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:41 am
by bsamways
On the contrary this has been widely reported in the UK press (both left and right wing seem to want to maximise the "doom and gloom" aspects of Brexit), in reality it doesn't really tell us anything new. Both the UK government, and civil service, are strongly pro-EU and are determined only to give worse case scenarios. It does appear, at the moment, that any problems with travel to the EU will be at the insistence of the EU, the EU will invent multiple checks, in their attempt to "punish" the UK for the audacity of voting to leave. An example of which is the so-called Northern Ireland issue, any checkpoints would be built and manned by Ireland, not the UK (currently, a similar arrangement can be seen with the Spain/ Gibraltar crossing, both EU states). As with Gibraltar, the checkpoints affect Spanish citizens massively more than those from Gibraltar.
The long term affect will be less trade and travel to EU countries (from the UK), an example of this was widely reportedsed in the media last week with the Spanish tourist industry complaining about the drop off in British holiday makers so far this year. Continued bad publicity about anti-tourist sentiment, increasing costs, bedroom taxes etc., have begun to impact on the number of visitors. Something not widely commented upon was the introduction of the "bedroom" tax in Greece, taxes never go down, and always act to reduce overall spending/ demand, as seen with Spain. The EU states (if not Brussels) should get real and realise that in the real world other countries want our tourists, and trade, and will not build barriers to prevent it.

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:39 pm
by Stella
What is the bedroom tax in Greece, please? Ah, sorry, just realised what you mean- the small amount charged per night in tourist accommodation?

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:42 pm
by sweep
Yes Stella. It is tiny in comparison to the overall spend of the average tourist. It is also operated similarly in other European countries. Spain and Hungary are two that we’ve visited recently. I cannot see this as a deterrent to the average British tourist but can only imagine that the reported fall in tourists to Spain is for a different reason. Perhaps it’s the cheaper destinations such as turkey and Bulgaria (and other Eastern European countries) which are taking this business?..?

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:11 am
by bsamways
After the latest debacle in Austria, it's interesting that the EU has not reciprocated the UK guarantee of EU citizens rights post Brexit.

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:04 pm
by ADI
Here is another spanner in the works, for those expats / property owners here that own Greek vehicles. We know that you have to a resident permit to buy the car in the first place (and we all know how that could be a pain to get). BUT if you read the front of them, it says for 'European Citizens' - so post BREXIT, we wont be EU citizens, so does the document becomes invalid ? Are we allowed to now own these vehicles / drive ? What about driving licences... this is worrying now..... :( :shock: :?

Re: If NO DEAL Brexit passport changes...

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:29 pm
by Ron 1